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Post by Rinn on Jul 29, 2012 16:19:44 GMT
Though I'd create this board as I'm sure others will have a use for it too. I'll happily advise others on English (though you really don't need it... : , and would love to hear feedback from native Dutch speakers. I'm using a website called Memrise, plus a combination of other sites for vocab/grammar. I'll do what I found best with German - make posters of things, draw little pictures next to words to remind me of them, practice repeating things etc etc. So I might post a few questions here, or maybe a block of text and ask for corrections etc.
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Post by Aerival on Jul 29, 2012 16:22:54 GMT
i spek bad englis can u help plz
Anyway, on a serious note, us Belgians & Dutchies will help you Rinny, so you can speak with us in Dutch the day the meetup will come ;D
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Post by Rinn on Jul 29, 2012 16:45:51 GMT
Yes! Obviously not fluently but able to hold a conversation! Also I can put it on my application
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Post by Rinn on Jul 30, 2012 11:00:56 GMT
Okay, whilst Memrise doesn't help much with grammar etc it is amazing for vocab! Here's what I've learnt since yesterday, completely off the top of my head: het overhemd (shirt), Zaterdag (Saturday), twintig (20), rood (red), de excursie (excursion), de attentie (attention), de vorst (frost), de verf (paint), de vlek (stain), ongelofelijk (unbelievable), het kasteel (castle), de been (leg), klein (small), lang (long), slechter (worse), de krant (newspaper), de tand (tooth), de bank (bank), de tak (branch), de geschiedenis (history/story), vrij (free), de melk (milk), een (1), eingenaar (owner), de brost (chest/breast), het stadsplein (town square), wisselend, vervelend (confusing), het geluk (luck), gelukwensen (to congratulate), wissen (to know), nemen (to take), de pot (pot), de kop (head), het mos (moss), de das (badger), jouw (your), iemand (everyone), saai (boring), ik zwem (I swim), ik schrijf (I write). Tell me if there's any errors, especially with 'het' and 'de' Now I just need to work out how to get them all into conversation. A discussion about moss, anyone? =P Also, Deutschkenntnisse helps a lot!
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Post by shizuma on Jul 30, 2012 12:23:30 GMT
All in all, that's a nice list, allow me to correct some stuff though
Overhemd is really archaic imho, people will almost always use hemd instead of overhemd. days of the week(same with months don't get a capital lettres. Contrary to english we don't see them as names. de attentie written like actually means a little gift that you brought with you when visiting somebody. attentie without de is attention. however this is a very formal word. in normal conversations you should almost always use aandacht if you want to say attention. de vorst written with de means the ruler/king. frost is just vorst without de. it's het been instead of de been (extra: het been can also mean bone). you probably typo'd eigenaar. same with borst. vervelend doesn't mean confusing it means annoying. confusing is verwarrend in dutch. to know is weten, wissen is a dutch word as well but it means erase in english. de kop should only be used among friends and when refering to animal heads or when trowing a coin. when talkign about human head, hoofd is a better word. iemand means somebody, everyone is iedereen in dutch.
Don't be dissapointed by this list, you're doing great. keep up the good work^^ Also if the list is unclear please tell me^^
Grammar wise i would say for starters just know that dutch is a SVO language, just like english. This means that generally you will always use Subject follow by Verb and followed by Object. also if the sentence has multiple objects, just remember that which logically belongs with eachother will be put close to eachother, but don't worry if you mix the objects, people will just think you're putting an emphasis on something Example: ik schrijf over mos met een pen (i write about moss with a pen) (if you say i write ... it's logically that what comes next is what you are writing about(here:mos), nobody is that interested in what you write it with(here: met een pen)) note: ik schrijf met een pen over mos is also a perfect phrase but like i said this just means that you put emphasis on what you write with.
HEY, i should become a teacher!
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Post by Rinn on Jul 30, 2012 13:19:04 GMT
Wow, thanks Shiz! No I'm not disappointed, your feedback is really useful! I may actually move onto phrases soon, haha =P I need a special notebook for this stuff!
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Post by roosje on Jul 30, 2012 23:44:49 GMT
hmm only one part i would adjust on what shiz said on the word overhemd, its a used word (shiz prolly never wears one thats why he doesnt know) but its that shirt with buttons worn underneath a suit by male. Oh and de bank can mean sofa or bank, depending on the sentence. Like: Ik moet naar de bank toe (i need to go to the bank (for money stuff)) or Ik zit op de bank (i'm sitting on the sofa)
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Post by shizuma on Jul 31, 2012 10:52:53 GMT
i do know what an overhemd is. i even have a few, but yeah hardly wear them anyway over here it is being used less and less. fashion shops still use it in their shops and such but the people always tend to use hemd in favor of overhemd. Maybe it's different in the netherlands? either way both are correct^^ and yes you are totally correct about the bank thingy. Something totally different now: Roos, Do you know the exact difference between ongelofelijk and ongelooflijk? i know both exist and mean the same but i have no idea why the 2 different ways of spelling exist...
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Post by roosje on Jul 31, 2012 11:18:57 GMT
Overhemd is still used alot here i think mostly cause hemd is used for underwear
As for that question, could be that its just old and new spelling but not sure.
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Post by Sakuno on Aug 11, 2012 19:15:02 GMT
onions are too hard to say.
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Post by Aerival on Aug 11, 2012 19:29:30 GMT
Lol Saku, what's so hard about ajuinen
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Post by Rinn on Aug 11, 2012 20:26:37 GMT
Have you learnt much Dutch, Saku? I think I'll start sitting down to learn grammar and stuff tomorrow - haven't had too much time lately, Joe was staying for a while, then job hunting and today I was gardening all day, it's a bit of a jungle out there xD
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Post by Sakuno on Aug 12, 2012 6:59:11 GMT
I haven't learnt that much really, just like food and basic answers to questions since I see that all the time, but still I can't hear what people are saying. *looks at aeri* are you sure that's dutch but yeah ui is just really hard to hear or say, I mean you can't write it phonetically in english because there is no sound like that, everything else can be simple compared to that if you can roll the r, which I can; but I can't put that r into a word yet~
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Post by Aerival on Aug 12, 2012 8:30:45 GMT
*looks at aeri* are you sure that's dutch Yes Saku, onion can be translated as both ui or ajuin. Ah, but I just read that ajuin is used more in Belgium (and a part of the Netherlands you're not in)
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Post by shizuma on Aug 12, 2012 8:39:08 GMT
Lol Saku, what's so hard about ajuinen anjoens! is the word!
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