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Post by Aerival on Aug 12, 2012 8:42:45 GMT
Lol Saku, what's so hard about ajuinen anjoens! is the word! Let them learn normal Dutch first Shiz, we'll teach them our advanced dialect after
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Post by Sakuno on Aug 12, 2012 10:00:20 GMT
*cough*
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Post by roosje on Aug 12, 2012 11:21:30 GMT
anjoens/ajuinen isnt a word but yeah the most challenging of dutch is the pronunciation as we got a few letter combos that aren't used in other languages, or we pronounce it differently. I always notice that with my name, mostly people pronounce it as roos(ter) while we would phonetically write that as roester. As for the grammar it has lots of exceptions that might be hard to get.
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Post by Rinn on Aug 12, 2012 13:49:50 GMT
The book I bought tries to set out pronounciation. I've gotten to grips with the G sounding like CH xD
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Post by Aerival on Aug 12, 2012 16:11:49 GMT
ajuinen isnt a word It is! And don't say Belgium only 'cause Wikipedia says they use it in South Netherlands as well As for anjoens, Shiz already wants to teach them dialect, he's getting ahead of himself.
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Post by shizuma on Aug 12, 2012 16:30:04 GMT
the g indeed sounds a bit like CH The main difference is that g is voiced and ch is voiceless basically if you pronounce a G you should feel your vocal throats vibrating whereas a ch won't vibrate. It's the same in english with S not vibrating and Z vibrating. The thing with dutch is that we have loads of fricative sounds. which are sounds made by channeling air through your mouth again, like the Z in english. In the netherlands these fricatives are generally more pronounced which results in a more raw sound than the belgian counterparts.
Dutch grammer certainly isn't that hard though. Dutch is a mixture of germanic and romanic languages. making it and analythetic language with some synthetic aspects. This means that like all analythetic languages, the grammar is restricted but the vocabulary is huge. However our grammar gets some extra spices because of the sythetic aspects.
don't worry, you'll be able to speak dutch. People have been learning multiple languages for ages and since there isn't a single language that is harder to learn than others by definition, you will be able to master dutch with enough dedication. Just remember not a single language is harder to learn than other, what makes you perceive it as difficult is the details of your first language and luckilly for you dutch and english aren't all that different.
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Post by Tangerine on Aug 12, 2012 17:15:12 GMT
anjoens/ajuinen isnt a word but yeah the most challenging of dutch is the pronunciation as we got a few letter combos that aren't used in other languages, or we pronounce it differently. I always notice that with my name, mostly people pronounce it as roos(ter) while we would phonetically write that as roester. As for the grammar it has lots of exceptions that might be hard to get. Your telling me that your name isn't roos (ter) but some wierd other thing !! This is pea-eh-trow and pie-trow all over again !! (luckily it was pea-eh-trow)
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Post by Aerival on Aug 12, 2012 17:22:33 GMT
Your telling me that your name isn't roos (ter) but some wierd other thing !! Lol whenever I pronounce Roos her name in whatever voicechat they're always amazed We should hold a scheduled voice chat sometime! Shiz, Roos and I can help Rinny a bit with her pronunciation that way.
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Post by Rinn on Aug 12, 2012 19:29:23 GMT
Yes please Aeri! Although I barely know anything atm. Maybe I could just read out the basic phrases and you correct pronounciation, or I go through letters and stuff to start?
And wow, I just presumed your name was pronounced 'Roos-ye', Roos D=
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Post by Rinn on Aug 13, 2012 14:53:52 GMT
Okay, anyone got any useful phrases for me? =D Useful conversational phrases, not like the crap I learnt for German A Level, talking about the environment and pollution...
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Post by D Moness on Aug 13, 2012 16:35:42 GMT
might be easier for you to point to some phrases you like to know what it is like in dutch. There are so many useful stuff to learn.
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Post by Rinn on Aug 13, 2012 16:52:10 GMT
This is dedication. IT WAS FUN! I feel like I'm in primary school :3
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Post by Aerival on Aug 13, 2012 20:47:36 GMT
Lemme add some that aren't on it Rinny: De maag - the stomach De wenkbrauw - the eyebrow De schedel - the skull De teen - the toe (I can't see it mentioned in any case, it's possible you wrote it a lil lower I barely noticed you got the fingers mentioned)
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Post by Rinn on Aug 14, 2012 7:42:50 GMT
Oh yeah, I added wenkbrauw and teen after! =)
What's the difference between de maag and de buik? (which I couldn't pronounce for the life of me until I realised it was similar to the German bauch...). Thanks!
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Post by Aerival on Aug 14, 2012 9:03:22 GMT
Maag = stomach and buik = belly. So the difference is, one is an organ, the other is a body area.
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